Door Issues 101
The doors on the trains all have safety sensors on them to tell the train computer if it's ok to move the train. We all know although they resemble elevator doors it's obvious they are not. These safety measures re-assure us that nobody will be sucked out mid flight.
When there is a problem, all the train operator sees on their "Dashboard" is a little light that says "Door Open"
Scenario 1.
Say it's Sunday afternoon on a four car train and this happens. The next train to this location is 20 minutes away.
The T/O radios central and reports the event and that they are now stopped. Central considers this for a moment and says go check it out. The T/O has about 19 minutes to find 1 defective door out of 6 if at the platform or 12 if on main line. The T/O is in the first car so we eliminate it from the suspects because they can usually see problems in the first unit without leaving the cab.
It's safe to assume that a T/O can find, lock out the door, apply door not working stickers and return to the cab within 10 minutes.
Scenario 2.
It's Monday evening and the same thing happens during commute and it's an 9 car train in downtown San Francisco.
The T/O radios central and without pause central says you're out of service sweep your train.(of Passengers)
It is way faster to take a train out of service than to have that train tie up the whole system causing a big delay. Don't forget the flood of people coming down the stairs.
Yes, it is a bitch to have to get off and fight for a seat again but the 10 trains behind this one are stll close to being on time. This is why there are different circumstances affecting the way to handle the same problem.
BART would rather have 1,000 people complain than 300,000
Based on the scenarios I can
Based on the scenarios I can understand the decisions by Bart. It's better to inconvenience the small group than shut and delay the entire system.
A clear, concise explanation
A clear, concise explanation of why it's done the way it is. Thank you for enlightening us. It makes it a little more bearable.
Now, if we can just train bart riders not to block the doors and not to try to keep them from closing like elevator doors, the commute would go a lot smoother. Is thre some way to do that? Educate the riding public that the train doors do not operate like elevator doors?
your welcome (Train
your welcome (Train Operator)
wait till the cars with
wait till the cars with three doors come out....thats 10 more set of doors to go bad on a 10 car train... :-(
ROFLMAO-are you actually
ROFLMAO-are you actually suggesting bart is going to be buying NEW cars anytime in the very near future???? I can't quit laughing. Go through and read some of the posts from bart employees. bart is investing money in replacing the floors in the train cars, why in the world would they buy new ones? I think bart owns stock in Johnson & Johnson because they keep making bandaid repairs instead of replacing antique stock which they could either sell to third world countries or unload on ebay. Some of those train cars could be put to better use if melted down and recreated into razor blades.
Have you noticed how the old
Have you noticed how the old ones sway from side-to-side when you're going through the tube; scarey feeling. I feel I can put my foot right through floor in a couple of them. I think there are holes in the floor under the carpet. Today was the first clean car I've ridden in in a long time. It was so nice. New wheels would be a good idea too. It cracks me up, they paint the sides with all that spare the air stuff and you look at the tops of those cars from the station and they are so rusted out. It's amazing they are still running them.