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Disgusted and, yes, heading towards disgruntled

For my entire tenure at BART, our raises have *always* been below the national average. For example, the past four years the averages were: 3.5, 3.9, 3.8 and 3.9. We got 0, 2, 2 and 3. This has created some problems in BART hiring more educated and/or technical staff since pay has gotten well below average for a lot of positions (not everyone is a TO or Station Agent). What I've noticed management doing, however, is hiring people into different job classifications but having them do the same work while getting paid a lot more money. When we try to have this issue addressed, it is spun in the press as us trying to use "work rules" to cost BART money. To me, it's a basic unfairness to have to train people who are making $30K a year more than the experienced employees doing the training.

People gripe about "lazy public employees" but, after awhile, a place like BART just wears you down mentally, especially when you realize you will get NOTHING for doing a job above and beyond the call of duty other than being berated by your own management every four years.

I have sympathy for those on the front lines, too. Is there some overtime abuse, probably. But, overall, most people who put in a lot of extra hours give up time with their family and friends to do so. Instead of THANKING its employees for giving up their holidays and days off to keep service running when staff levels are too low, or working double shifts when there's a problem such as a fire, management uses this overtime *against* its employees for negotiating purposes and to turn public opinion against us. I *dare* management to make overtime optional--they can't and won't do it, the trains wouldn't run.

I would say overall I've been a good employee. I have always gotten very good reviews, but of course the only reward BART gives good employees is more work since they know we won't say "no".

I'm really starting to feel like I've been a fool. If this contract sucks as bad as I'm afraid it's going to, I'm just going to start putting in my 8 hours, then going home, regardless of whether I'm still in a meeting, discussion, etc. I also plan to start using up the enormous amount of sick leave I've accrued to look for work elsewhere, or may just retire. I'll take four weeks of continuous vacation, like the contract says I can, rather than one week at a time. Do doctors still put people on 'stress leave'?

The way I feel after these negotiations and our badmouthing by management and Linton Johnson is that this may be the first time in my life that I just walk off a job with no notice and without giving my successor(s) any information about my tasks, etc.

my impression is that bart's

my impression is that bart's recruiting/retention problem isn't so much due to non-competitive salaries but more due to the stuff that you describe in the bottom half of your post ... namely, it's a f***ed up, miserable place to work ... poorly managed, poisonous management/labor relations, uncooperative empire-building middle managers, work rule obsessed unions, and a general lack of top-to-bottom solidarity and pride in the organization. you couldn't pay me enough to work in a place like that, and most people that i know feel the same way about bart.

Master Chief's picture

Dude shut the fuck up and

Dude shut the fuck up and just quit already.

Jesus Christ you have been threatening to quit for like MONTHS now.
Shit or get off the fucking pot, bro.

Overtime is ALWAYS optional, no matter how strongly they ask. They cannot legally force you to work overtime.
The whole reason you're in a fucking union in the first place is so that you can fight back if they ask you to do shit that isn't legal.

lucifer's picture

Overtime is optional for At

Overtime is optional for At Will employees, our contracts make Mandatory Overtime permissible when Management thinks it's necessary.

Master Chief's picture

I have no sympathy for people

I have no sympathy for people who complain about making double pay during a time when most people are losing their jobs or taking drastic cuts to hours or pay.

I can see you dont know much

I can see you dont know much about the real world, living in that fantacy place BERKELY, a lot of companys, if you dont work overtime when requested to, they [ the company] will make it real hard on you if you dont, legal or not. Thats when its nice to have a UNION. So stop lisening to those UC BERKELY so-called professors and learn something real.

C'mon man, its not all that

C'mon man, its not all that bad, the way you put it.

You guys have extra pay for Graveyard shifts, 1.5x overtime, 2x overtime, very very generous sick leaves/holidays/vacation days. you don't work on your birthdays and get paid for it. you get full medical benefits for whole family for $85 per month. Decent pay + pensions. Do you think there is any workplace where there is no problem or issues. Get real.

I worked in the private

I worked in the private sector and people there get Social Security when they retire. At BART the people get pension and what management did was put in the pension into the pay the employees get to make it look like they get so much more benefits than they get. I wish BART would open their books and let an outside auditor look at the books to see what is going on there.

toomuchbart, please don't

toomuchbart, please don't take this the wrong way, but where on earth did you get the idea that bart's finances are secret? it's a public agency; it publishes public financial reports; anyone who wants to can request and receive any financial information that they want. even, as the contra costa times demonstrated, the actual take home pay of every single bart employee. if you *really* are interested in bart's finances, start here.

if you know of an outside auditor -- not one who is paid by bart or by the unions -- who actually is willing to review and report on bart's finances, you'd be doing a huge public service. i doubt that any outside auditor is willing to do it, at least not for free. but that's not bart's fault.

BART is a lot less open, at

BART is a lot less open, at least willingly, than most other public transportation agencies.

agreed; bart's organizational

agreed; bart's organizational culture is disdainful of those troublesome people known as "riders" and "the public" ... but that's different from saying that bart finances are secret. someone just has to take the time and make the effort to request and review the information. i wish someone (qualified and independent) would actually do that. but until someone gets off their butt and does it, i also wish that people would shut up about how "bart needs to open their books and submit to an independent audit."

most of us don't have the qualifications to do a financial audit of bart, and anyone who does have the qualifications is not going to do it for free. if the unions believe that an independent (a *truly* independent) audit is needed, they should use some of their political capital to get our state legislators to order an independent audit. that's probably the only way that it's going to happen.

Officer Jo-Jo's picture

I was trying to stay out of

I was trying to stay out of this whole mess, but I felt the same way in regards to national averages etc. Unfortunately no one gave a hoot about our 2% and 3% raises when dot com folks were making 2x or 3x their normal salary. I realize most of them are out of jobs now and losing their fancy houses they paid too much for. It seems as though we (government workers) are penalized in good times and bad. Hopefully "slow and steady" will win the race in the long run. Thanks to all the "haters" out there, it's been amusing!

Master Chief's picture

You're welcome!

You're welcome!

Return ATO's picture

I think some who work at BART

I think some who work at BART need a reality check in a position outside the transit agency to see just how bad others have it. I consider myself fortunate and thankful to have gained employment at BART, considering what the economy has been doing and the number of individuals who find themselves out of a job and one of the ever increase labor statistics. I am sure past contracts have been better than what has been tentatively agreed upon by both sides. Regardless of how this turns out, I for one will be thankful I am still employed.

well said Return ATO.

well said Return ATO.