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Linton Johnson said confront a Train Operator or Station Agent

I heard from someone Linton said that on TV, is there any truth to it? If so that's a new low.. Anyone have the video anywhere? Or is it not true? That is the most dangerous thing anyone could say... I also heard it was retracted like 1/2 hour later.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/2038

http://www.ktvu.com/news/20388378/detail.html

It would appear that he did indeed say such a thing. While I do not think he meant to confront in a way of violence it is still a dangerous thing to say. One would think that a man, who is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a speaker, could speak without saying such a dangerous thing.

Common_Sense

disgusting

disgusting

concerned_commuter's picture

i am happy to say that

i am happy to say that everyone i have seen has been very nice to the station agents today. much nicer than usual. i hope that the riders do not take their anger out on the hardworkers at bart. if you are mad go tell the management. they are the ones who raised your fares and have pushed the union to this point!

thesilentj's picture

Yeah I agree, it was a little

Yeah I agree, it was a little "tense" in the stations today...at least in the a.m. but everyone was civil it seemed. I was curious to see if anything would happen but..much to my JOY nothing did ...(as of 12pm when I was out of the stations)

Electronic Tech's picture

I would really be surprised

I would really be surprised if he still has a job after this is all over. I think he has hurt BART management more than he has helped, if he has helped at all.

Some ATU members might tell

Some ATU members might tell you that the reason they voted down the contract is because of the way Linton Johnson vilified them in the press. He portrayed them in such a negative, greedy manner that, when it came time to vote, many of them felt like, "What the heck? If that's how BART wants to portray us to the public, then that's what we'll give them."

Mr. Johnson handled the accident at West Dublin in an unprofessional manner, reporting that the condition of the Contra Costa Electric worker "looked very bad." He was in no position to make either a medical or personal assessment of the worker's condition. That should have been left to the hospital spokesperson. As it turned out, the worker had no internal injuries, no broken bones, and amazingly only suffered some scalp and arm lacerations. But to hear Mr. Johnson's initial report, it sounded like the worker's condition was touch and go at best.

This supposed Public Information Officer does not impress me

IF BART finally gets rid of

IF BART finally gets rid of that friggin asshole, I'M CELEBRATING FOR A WEEK!. Talk about the ANNOY button. I've hated a "stale" report spokesperson as much as him.

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As I understand it, yes it

As I understand it, yes it was a true statement. Why he would go out and make such an asinine comment is unknown. I would have backed any train operator or station agent if that indeed happened. He has been a terrible mouthpiece for management from the beginning and this is definitely NOT the correct way to go about it. Then again, I guess we no longer expect much truth or sense out of his mouth any longer.

Union and management is

Union and management is *supposed* to have at least a civil, working relationship. Obviously we do not judging by comments such as those.

But Linton is management's mouthpeice so he said what they are thinking. They're furious with us for not accepting that contract and having the system on the verge of a shutdown.

They called our bluff by imposing a contract, and we called thiers by giving a 72 hour strike notice.

Electronic Tech's picture

Yea, he said it during the

Yea, he said it during the Noon newscast. All of the Mechanics and Techs were pissed. Don't get me wrong, we don't think you guys should be striking right now. I have yet to hear one SEIU member say they support your Leaderships decision. But for him to say that is just wrong and he should be fired.

I hope you guys are well prepared. Everyone I talk to says they won't honor your line for that long, maybe a week at best. And if any of your people scab, we have been told we can go back to work. The thought is why should we honor your line if your own people cross. We are strugling as it is, and now we are going to lose pay for what many deem a lost cause.

What are you guys walking for anyway? Jessie Hunt has changed his story several times. First it was work rules, then a 2 year contract, now a "fair share". Not bashing, just asking.

I say Jessie Hunt is a bigger

I say Jessie Hunt is a bigger hole than Linton. Linton in his press conference apologized for his mistake. He said "confront" is not what he meant but to talk to friendly TOs and SAs to know whats going on in their minds. As far as Hunt goes, i think he should be FIRED, not by the management but by the workers. If any ATU worker loses his job, its totally Hunt's fault. SEIU and AFSME workers losing pay, is also Hunt's fault. I don't know what his personal agenda is, but he is one person totally responsible for this mess.

Only reason why you think

Only reason why you think Jesse should be fired is because the union did not accept that contract.

It's not Jesse's decision wether to accept or decline the contract anyways. He has to roll with whatever the union as a whole votes. The union voted no, so that's the stance he had to take too.

So stop the bus with your ignorant and false statements.

In one of the previous

In one of the previous threads one you said that you guys voted NO because you did not get the full contract to read before voting and that was the reason. Now if you did not get the contract to read who's fault is it? Another thing, you guys are pretty much influenced by your leaders. this has been proved in both the votings that happened. Hunt is your leader. Now you tell me......

I think its not just SEIU and AFSME thats being punished but also the workers of the ATU who are being poorly led.

Again. Ignorance on your

Again. Ignorance on your part.

You don't even know HOW Jesse voted in the meeting for you to make such asinine assumptions. He could have actually voted yes for all you know. But you weren't there, so be quiet.

Again. Regardless of what Jesse voted, the union overwhelmingly voted the contract down. And he has to represent and support that vote. Even if he may personally disagree.

Link to Previous

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{Language. Ambiguity. Secrecy.
Submitted by hardworker on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:13am.

Language. Ambiguity. Secrecy. ETC. The membership did not get the contract they were voting on until they entered the meeting. They handed out the contracts as we walked in. We had already been given a synopsis but it was not detailed. The contract packet is approximately 100 pages front and back. The membership asked the President to postpone the vote a few days so we can read it. He said no. So the membership said No.}

boopiejones's picture

here's what i have been

here's what i have been wondering: WHY did they not get the contract until minutes before they were asked to vote? is it:

a) because their president dropped the ball, is a moron, etc
or
b) because their president wanted them to vote "no" and figured not allowing anyone to read the contract would ensure a no vote.

i say B all the way. it was not the president's "fault." it was a calculated move to ensure that they would vote no and force a strike.

i agree i think he was afraid

i agree i think he was afraid that his members would see that the wasteful work rules he was fighting to keep were things they would not mind giving up

Electronic Tech's picture

Look, my biggest problem with

Look, my biggest problem with Jessie is that he never fully supported the agreement that he agreed to. I read the cover leter he issued with your proposed contract and Linton (mark this down because I will never say it again) was right. He called it "ugly" and said the downsides were "obvious". Nowhere in that letter was a show of support. When asked by news reporters after the marathon negotiations what was good about the contract, he looked stumped. Our president jumped in and said "No layoffs".

If he didn't like it, that's fine. But don't get up from the table and agree to back it in front of your membership when you know you can't. That is why I really can't fault the membership. Your leadership has really let you down here. I will say it again, if I felt in any way our leadership was skeptical about the proposal I would have voted no. But they backed thier decision %100.

thanks ET for being a voice

thanks ET for being a voice of reason on bartrage.

Officer Jo-Jo's picture

I wasn't sure if I should

I wasn't sure if I should comment on this one so I'll keep it simple. I was surprised to see how unhelpful he was in January also.

Electronic Tech's picture

Bring back Mike Healy! Lol.

Bring back Mike Healy! Lol.

Officer Jo-Jo's picture

Hmmm? I kind of like that

Hmmm? I kind of like that idea!

I'm convinced that someone is

I'm convinced that someone is being paid to be instrumental in trying to disrupt this forum.

Whoever is behind Master Chief and his numerous sock puppet comrades thinks they are slick. If you look at some of the people who have been here with him guess what?

BARTHater and sick of it created their accounts within a day of each other. I can't get to Master Chief's info because he is now blocked but he showed up at about the same time.

BartHater
http://bartrage.com/user/2257
Member for
9 weeks 1 day

sick of it
http://bartrage.com/user/2250
Member for
9 weeks 2 days

And then there's today's new "bloggers" all with the same anti union message.

SFBigMike
http://bartrage.com/user/2400
Member for
3 hours 1 min

TransitTaker
http://bartrage.com/user/2405
Member for
2 hours 25 min

lmdyste
http://bartrage.com/user/2404
Member for
2 hours 40 min

scottrobot
http://bartrage.com/user/2398
Member for
4 hours 29 min

Paul Tex Jackson
http://bartrage.com/user/2394
Member for
10 hours 10 min

Somebody's been a little too busy to just be an idle punk with a screw loose.

OK, here we go, now wait for

OK, here we go, now wait for it to post:

gfxguy
http://bartrage.com/user/2407
Member for
8 min 30 sec

TreoBART's picture

I was able to easily identify

I was able to easily identify 12 usernames as belonging to Master Chief, and banned all of those at once. He is apparently the most schizophrenic person on the planet because I found entire threads where he did nothing but argue with himself, sometimes with 3 completely different points of view.

The moral of the story is don't feed the trolls. Or, don't take the bait. Because they might all be the same person.

Also, soup is good food.

Just imagine, some on this

Just imagine, some on this forum thought this could not be done.

boopiejones's picture

thanks for taking care of

thanks for taking care of this. i was still debating what to do, but you made the right call. there is no point letting him clog up this site, even if he isn't breaking the "rules." having multiple accounts immediately makes you a rulebreaker in my book...

Officer Jo-Jo's picture

I was wondering if he was

I was wondering if he was arguing with himself on those threads. They just seemed to be a little "over the top" for BARTRAGE. Keep up the good work and don't give out any more secrets on how you figure these guys out!

TreoBART's picture

Boopie and I are ninjas.

Boopie and I are ninjas. That's all :-)

or maybe the public is just

or maybe the public is just fed up with all the bullshit

did yo uthink of that

go look at the comments on sfgate

people there have been talking about this site

expect a whole bunch of very angry riders very soon

this not management this is the voice of the people

Sock puppets r us probably

Sock puppets r us probably pays just enough for Red Bull and cigarettes for this kind of work.

TreoBART's picture

nah, he's a script kiddie

nah, he's a script kiddie that got bored teabagging the other 15 year olds on xbox live

Trust me, there's paranoid

Trust me, there's paranoid schizoids in BART management. They come and go but there's always a few around.

TreoBART's picture

This is different from the

This is different from the rest of the government how? LOL

That was my point.

That was my point.

what is that even supposed to

what is that even supposed to mean

what a stupid opinion

just because someone does not agree with you does not make them a shill

hey maybe *you* are a paid shill of the unions

maybe they are paying you to come here and lie and try to make the unions sound better

or better yet maybe yo uneed to put down the bong because you are getting too paranoid

Keep filling out those

Keep filling out those resumes with no capitalization and punctuation as if you were texting and maybe you could get a job, uhh, texting.

what are you even talking

what are you even talking about i have a job

put down the bong you are starting to sound crazy

boopiejones's picture

some of the ones above are

some of the ones above are real people that are just pissed at the whole strike thing and probably found this site when looking for info on the strike. sure they all have the same message. they have no way to easily get to work on monday, the economy is in shambles, and the union strikes because they won't make concessions (at least that is what it looks like on the surface. i have long ago decided not to involve myself with the union talk).

other than transittaker and sickofit, i am pretty sure the others are legit.

I usually do not get into

I usually do not get into personal stuff, but i have to clear the air about my ID. I do not have any more IDs than BartHater. I realized later that I should have taken BartUnionHater and not BartHater. I love bart but hate the unreasonable unions. I got to know about this website on TV news and immediately checked it out. I think a lot of other people joined in during that time.

boopiejones's picture

i can back barthater on this.

i can back barthater on this. barthater is not one of master chief's aliases.

thanks for backing me up on

thanks for backing me up on this. One suspicion still lingers on about me. All because of a couple of nice suits. :)

caintgetright's picture

Was I wrong about Master

Was I wrong about Master Chief
and personalities sitting in it's basement or
Mom's sewing room flaming everyone?
In its tighty whities no less.

I was on my way into the City

I was on my way into the City for my massage Thursday on the 9:56 or whatever it is out of Concord. For some reason the T.O. at Rockridge had to leave the train and go downstairs and pick up a package for BART? People were wondering why the T.O. didn't let us know what was going on and it was because he wasn't on the train. Why would BART make him do that? It stressed him out because it through the train off schedule because he was gone a while and people at Rockridge were also slow to board and straggling so he couldn't immediately depart. I felt bad for him because he was obviously having a bad day from the tone of his voice. Why wouldn't a station agent bring whatever it is up to the platform and hand it to the T.O. like they normally do? That just seems weird, I thought, oh is that part of his job now?

he was probably getting a

he was probably getting a personal item he left at a station or something

why do train conductors never tell their riders what is going on

very lame how hard is it to tell people what is up