BART Community Meeting Points

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OK I've rounded up the suggestions from the two posts regarding the $5 million surplus, why it should not be used for fare reductions, and other ways it could be used. I am going to post each block of points below for comments. This is your last chance for input, I currently have input from 16 different people. I plan to go to the meeting on WED JUN 16 in CONCORD. If anyone wants to attend with me, shoot me an e-mail at


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BartRAGE is against the fare reduction:

“A 3% or 5% reduction would save the average rider less than $2 per week, assuming he or she has an $8 round trip daily commute. It's insulting. If the Board wants to "thank" the riders, it should restore some evening/weekend service to make off peak wait times more convenient” (joe001, 7weeks 5 days)

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Train Maintenance – Refurbishing the worst cars
“Saving me $.10 on a trip doesn't say "Thank You, Longtime Riders" to me, as I'm stuck on a platform for 20 minutes just to sit on a dirty seat.” (dukespot, 1 year 22 weeks)

Dim Lighting

Worn and broken seat cushions

Replacing filthy carpet with flooring

Preventative Maintenance/Repair of problem doors

Improved Sound Dampening / More Rail Grinding
Certain areas such as the Trans Bay Tube are extremely loud

If full refurbishment is not practical, a one time deep cleaning / seat replacement / light replacement (regular maintenance items)

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“Why was BART running a …five-car train when there was an A's game going on last Friday. Maybe they better spend that extra money on keeping on top of events.” (bart_rider, 2 years 45 weeks)

Longer and/or more frequent trains during events like baseball games, bay to breakers, etc.

Earlier airport trains on weekends to help accommodate travelers

Later trains on all lines and better scheduling for late trains to allow passengers on the last train to be able to get to any station in the system

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Safety and Security

More visible presence of BART officers on trains and in stations when there is NOT an incident currently going on, especially during later hours

More fare enforcement system wide, especially during peak hours

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Major Service Changes - What should require notification to passengers

"In terms of defining "major service changes", the following makes sense to me:

Changing the scheduled opening or closing hours

Changing the scheduled destinations of, or stops along, any of the lines in the system.

Changing the scheduled frequency of trains along a line." (icrew, 2 years 2 weeks)

Delays longer than the time between trains on that schedule

I wholeheartedly agree with the one about having additional personnel to address rampant fare evasion. The proposed fare reduction would save me about 30 cents a day. Over the proposed four-month period, even assuming no holidays and assuming there were not days when I had to take alternate transportation for some reason, I would save about $24. This does pretty much nothing to dampen the insult I feel when throngs of people take the elevator down from the platform at del Norte station, in full view of the station agent, and with a ubiquitous BART police car parked nearby, and no one from BART seems to care. "Thank you" to those of us who pay the fares every day would be eliminating those people who do not. - BartCynic (3 years, 7 weeks)

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May I suggest having the employees forgo all the furlough days we agreed to before this "surplus of money" arrived. I think that was pretty insulting too.

Unless the fare reduction can be permanent, it isn't worth the trouble. I'd much rather see all trains running 10 cars on the Pittsburg/Baypoint to San Francisco line before 9 a.m. Running 8 car trains during the heaviest commute times is not only bad customer service, it's cruel and unusual punishment for many riders who suffer claustrophobia.

Okay, I'm going out on the limb on this one: It will not cost $5million, much less, but it could save millions more - updated, law enforcement defensive tactics, less-than lethal and lethal weapons training. This includes practical application, updated court decisions and hands-on practice. All hands, top to bottom training for all BART Police sworn personnel. Training dollars are always cut back, however in light of current conditions, this may be a good investment.