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DontWannaGetShot's picture

The murderer johannes mehserle was released back into the public to enjoy the rest of his wonderful life after receiving the most minor of punishments for murdering an innocent BART rider. But once a murderer, always a murderer. There is a very high likelihood he will murder again. Be on the lookout for this man johannes mehserle, if he is spotted, stay away. He has proven himself to be a very dangerous individual.

Rest in Peace Mr. Oscar Grant!

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bartarded's picture

Mehserle was convicted of

Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter, not murder.

It has been proven in court that his unfortunate killing of the drug-dealing felon Oscar Grant was an accident.

DontWannaGetShot's picture

Of course it was an accident.

Of course it was an accident. It was an accident because a white cop shot a black man in the back while he was restrained on the ground.
Turn the tables around and have a black man shoot a white cop in the back to the point that he is killed (has to penetrate his vest) and that black man will be lucky to spend the rest of his life in jail. Most likely, he will receive the death penalty.
Murder is murder, regardless of what the corrupt courts think.

bartarded's picture

Oscar Grant was a violent

Oscar Grant was a violent thug who was arrested 12 times and did time in state prison twice, was high on narcotics, violating his parole, and had been involved in a massive brawling fight on BART. Although a cop should not use deadly force unless absolutely necessary, the best way to avoid getting shot by a cop is to cooperate and to keep your hands in plain sight. Oscar Grant did neither and he himself triggered the events that led to his own death.

If a black cop had shot a white man with the same criminal history that Grant had in the same situation (high on drugs, violating parole, resisting arrest) he would have gotten the same treatment.

TreoBART's picture

You know, I think this may be

You know, I think this may be the only thing I agree with you on.

bartarded's picture

What, you don't agree that

What, you don't agree that BART employees are overpaid (highest paid transit workers in the Nation) or that BART management is full of corrupt idiots who are wrecking the system with stupid ideas and ignoring general maintenance?

+1 @treoBart

+1 @treoBart

thesilentj's picture

Just so I am clear on your

Just so I am clear on your "view"

He was convicted of Murder ...when?

By using the "logic" you example here (Once a murderer always a murderer) Mr Grants documented history of criminal acts would mean...once a criminal always a criminal , correct?

One more, if we were to REALLY turn the table on this situation (as you tried to do above but...forget a few VERY important details), it would be an African American officer shooting an unarmed , uncooperative , Caucasian Man while on the ground .... not in cuffs.

What you fail to understand

What you fail to understand is that a regular citizen has NO valid reason to be carrying a loaded firearm and aiming it at a police officer. So, if a man (black, white, or whatever) shot a cop in the back, there would be NO justifiable reason for that, and of course the situation would turn out differently in terms of the trial/sentencing.

However, police officers (black, white or whatever) are required to carry loaded firearms, and use them to carry out their duties in enforcing the law and protecting themselves and the public. It is completely legitimate for a police officer to point a loaded firearm at a person in certain situations. As a result, the courts and the jury have to take that into consideration as a mitigating circumstance in such cases. Officers are also generally protected from being criminally charged for shooting/killing someone in the line of duty, because the state and general public recognize that they have equipped and trained officers such that this may happen from time to time in order for the officer to defend his/her life, and/or the lives of others. If a cop had to face criminal charges every time he fired his weapon, we'd have no cops (or they'd end up dead a lot more) because they'd waste precious, life saving time worrying about whether they'll be sent to jail for doing their job.

So, your comparison is about as valid as comparing apples and oranges.

Don't want to get shot? Then

Don't want to get shot?

Then try not acting like a fool in public, and resisting arrest when the police detain you. I do it every day, and look... I've never been shot!

Also, you're showing your extreme bias/ignorance by calling Mehserle a "murderer". He did not commit murder. He committed manslaughter - and thus he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Here's some light educational reading so you can understand the difference: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/homicide-murder-manslaughter-32637.html;jsessionid=7C462E5F9ED5326EAD35A24A591B6318

Lastly, I feel perfectly safe with Mehserle free. He had no prior criminal history or trouble with the law. And he made a tragic mistake for which he apologized, showed remorse, and served his time quietly. I have no doubt that Mehserle will reintegrate back into society, get a job, focus on raising his family, and become a productive member of society who never re-offends again. And that's more than Oscar Grant could have said when he was alive, considering his lengthy rap sheet, and the fact that he was violating his parole that NYE (and knew that he was about to go back to prison for parole violation, leading him to resist arrest).

I'll take a person who accidentally kills another, but is otherwise an upstanding citizen, over someone who is a multiple convicted felon ANY day.

Nice! I now know which

Nice! I now know which bloggers on this post are BLACK and which are WHITE! Once in a while you do come across an issue that actually is black and white, like this one. And my comment, no matter how I slice it, will clue you in to my own race. So here it is, in the form of a footnote: Mehserle now has a felony on his record that will haunt him for the rest of his life as he tries to find employment to put food in the mouths of his family. Many employers, including ALL of the reputable ones, won't hire him with a felony, and that's his cross to bear. Grant's family, however, has settled or will settle their civil suit with enough money to retire. So in 10 years from now, who will be living a better life? I honestly don't know-- you be the judge...

bartarded's picture

So you're saying that the

So you're saying that the only people who spew hatred towards Mehserle are racist African Americans?

In case you didn't notice, there were people of all colors at the "Justice 4 Oscar Grant" rallies, but there wasn't a single black person at the "Justice For Johannes Mehserle" rallies.

Hmmmmm.....

If what you say is true, then

If what you say is true, then it only proves my point: that because of media coverage, spin groups, alleged rights groups, etc, this issue has become inseparable from racial identity. I may not want it that way, nor you, nor any other individual. But the reality is, a person's race has become a predominant force in how someone views this incident. Sure, sprinkle in some random ethnicities, but I bet my left nut that the Grant rallies were predominantly one race, just as, like you suggest, the Mehserle rallies were. Things would be different if I was appointed ruler of the known universe. Someone somewhere made a mistake by not doing so.

bartarded's picture

Predominantly

Predominantly ? Entirely

Watch the "Justice 4 Oscar Grant" looting footage from the Oakland "protests" - you can see people of practically every color of the rainbow.

Maybe this is racial for *you* but for me it's just about a poorly trained cop who made an incredibly stupid mistake and accidentally shot a multiple-felon who was resisting arrest. The color of their skin doesn't come into the equation.

caintgetright's picture

Anyone with a lick of common

Anyone with a lick of common sense who have seen the cell phone videos, know it was an accident. The people who have turned this into a racial issue, are the racists. If it were an Asian cop who shot Grant, would the same thing happen? Or even is the cop was Black, would the same thing happen? No, it was a White cop, so the antagonists turned this into a reason to get their faces in the cameras and microphones, to keep the seperation/exclusion/mistrust between the races alive. Frankly, I don't care what Grant did, he didn't deserve to be shot, but rational people know from the evidence provided, it was a awful accident. This wasn't a case of police brutality and it wasn't murder. Now, you do have to realize Grant had a hand in his own killing. He was where he wasn't supposed to be, doing things he wasn't supposed to. Keep your ass out of the fire, and you won't get burned...right?

Lastly, I am ashamed of my fellow co-workers who participate in the rallies that call this murder and racism. You want to draw attention to police brutality and police misconduct...fine. But to continue to call Mehserle a murderer and racist, is asinine and hateful, especially when you know the truth. Your words mean nothing to me, I will never trust anything you say, and I damn sure won't vote for you in any Union election. You are all racists and liars to me.

bartarded's picture

I think this is the first

I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with you on anything.

TreoBART's picture

This certainly is a thread of

This certainly is a thread of firsts.

@caintgetright I feel the

@caintgetright I feel the same way.

chrish's picture

the only reason this is still

the only reason this is still in the news is so the leach Burris can collect his $$$$$$

There you go. Lawyers are

There you go. Lawyers are politicians in larval form.

TreoBART's picture

Like.

Like.

chrish's picture

he is the reason this won't

he is the reason this won't die...he has to keep it in the press until he has the civil trial wrapped up, then he will "recommend" to the family that one of his associates invest their $ with them and he will get another kickback...scum of the earth

Until life throws you a

Until life throws you a curveball and all hell breaks loose. Then the first call you'll make is to that larvae, begging for help.

Gee, I wonder what you do for

Gee, I wonder what you do for a living?

Genius comeback.

Genius comeback.

Best I could do while ducking

Best I could do while ducking those curveballs...

...which you will have to do

...which you will have to do because the adult form of the larvae have devised a system where you are fucked unless you are a larvae or pay a lot of money to one.

To be honest, I have more

To be honest, I have more fear of some of the people I see getting on the train in West Oakland or MacArthur than I would of Johannes Mehserle. At least once a day you read about someone in those neighborhoods being gunned down. It's not that often that you hear about cops shooting someone who is innocent.