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Train Operator in car 1258

bartarded's picture

Absolutely awful driver. Must have had the train in manual. Multiple extremely hard stops at almost every station, much worse than usual. Passengers in my car kept falling down, because she would slam the breaks to a hard stop, and then suddenly lurch the car forward 1 or 2 feet without warning. Saw her open the door to the front compartment to hit a rider who was standing in front of it - she didn't try to exit the cab, just opened the door to hit him and then closed it again. Also kept missing the correct stopping position for a 9-car train and then jerking forward to the stopping position for a 10-car.

Don't know if she was angry or just a really terrible driver.

lucifer's picture

The TO has no control over

The TO has no control over how hard the train brakes, it's all controlled by the computers, along with the acceleration, limited to 3MPH per second, even if they hit the "EM stop" button for an emergency stop the train still runs it's braking profile and slows down at the same rate.

bartarded's picture

So then why does the

So then why does the harshness of the breaking vary dramatically? Why would a train jerk to a halt multiple times at every station?

And, if TOs have no control most of the time, why are they paid so damn much?

Well it's pretty clear that

Well it's pretty clear that someone doesn't know what the hell they're doing. If not the driver, then who was it? I've had more than my fair share of rides where some jackhole keeps stopping the train abruptly. If not the driver then who?

It's been mentioned here

It's been mentioned here before that the Great Computer of All Trains
is responsible for this sort of thing, and that the t/o has nothing to
do with it.

bartarded's picture

Yeah, the Train Operator is

Yeah, the Train Operator is never at fault, even when they are. :-P

A.T.'s picture

There is a section on the

There is a section on the movement handle of the control console known as Neutral. By shifting between this and the Stop and Run section, the train could coast to a stop if it's timed right. Plus during coupling, I saw a TO in manual to perform this task. The train moved quite smoothly and slowly to reach its destination to couple. Unless this has changed from 5 years ago, I have a bet that the operators have some control to some extent regarding acceleration and braking when in manual mode. I could be wrong, but it would be foolish not to give some flexible control to the operators when in this mode for obvious safety reasons.

Electronic Tech's picture

Close, but not exactly.

Close, but not exactly. There is no "Neutral" section. There is a point at which the operator can control the amount of acceleration. This is only the case in manual mode, and in manual mode the train will not exceed 25 MPH. Now let me try to explain what is probably happening. In automatic mode the train knows how long it is. Based on that length it knows where to stop in the station and line up it's doors with the black markers on the platform. Since it knows where it is going to stop at, no acceleration is requested and the train slows down at the 3 MPH per second rate. In manual mode, the TO is trying to gauge where they need to stop in order to line up with the black markers. If the TO pulls all the way back on the handle(Maximum speed), the train will go into full acceleration and try to achieve the the requested 25 MPH speed. Let's say the train is a couple of feet off of the markers and the TO wants move forward to line up. If they pull all the way back on the handle and a second later they drop it, you will get the jerk forward you are talking about. The train goes from a stopped position, to full acceleration, to full braking. A good TO will know how to gently feather the handle so the acceleration is less,therefore the transition from propulsion to braking is much smoother. And just to clarify, they do not have any control over the amount of braking applied.

First of all, the cab door is

First of all, the cab door is not supposed to be blocked by anyone. There is even a sticker on most of them saying the same. About the stopping, if the train operator was in manual mode, dropping the p-handle will make the train come to an abrupt stop. But if it was happening at every station when the train was in automatic, it might be the braking profile was out of adjustment. I sympathize. It's not fun for the train operator either.