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Call Train Operator if Panhandlers arrive, bringing their children in on the act

Friends, please phone the Train Operator if you see the following:

A guy who IDs himself as a father with a family hard luck story, has one to two young boys with him. Sits them down and they play loud music, and pass a white plastic bucket.

The kids look very unhappy, like circus animals with ringmaster. Call Train Operator.

Ostentatiously dressed black woman (her outfits make Oprah look like a nun) who loudly yells she needs money for the homeless shelters, and has her very sad looking young teenaged daughter with her. Kid looks beaten down and very unhappy. This woman looks like she dresses at Neiman-Marcus. Plays the guilt card and is involving her daughter in this horror show.

Call Train Operator

He's not the only one.

He's not the only one. There's a guy with an accordian who plays
Lawrence Welk stuff while his wife(?) and kid walk around with a cup
asking for money.

Saw the same guy again last

Saw the same guy again last night on the 5pm train to Fremont @ MacArthur. The amazing thing is that people continue
to give this guy money...

yes, i was approached by this

yes, i was approached by this middle eastern or indian woman and her child on BART last Thursday or Friday on my way into work. really felt bad for the child. concord safeways were having a problem with this a few months ago; read about it on claycord.com so maybe now they've moved on from grocery stores to BART trains.

what's with SF anyway, I thought they had "care" not "cash" for homeless and mentally ill. i don't they any of them are getting any care or cash in SF and they are just basically all out on the street. i'm bombarded on my way to and from BART; it is really sad.

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I've probably seen this same

I've probably seen this same lady (wearing bright colors and had a baby swaddled or wrapped up on her waist). I tried to call the TO and he only cleared the call button without saying anything back at me. The Embarcadero station agent (who I went to in order to get BartPD alerted) said they're familiar with this "gypsy".

Talked w a BART police

Talked w a BART police officer about this.

Friends, we have to decide if we want BART to become a set up for grifters using **children and babies** as part of a money shake down.

1) We have to get involved. Especially if minor children are being used as part of a panhandling operation. The BART police cannot do anything unless one or more citizens is willing to delay getting home or going to work and make a complaint. You can give a PO box or work address if you dont want anyone knowing where you live.

2) Right now its relatively rare for panhandlers to use minor children or babies. BUT if we dont push that Train Operator button and stay around to give a complaint to the police so the DA can prosecute a case---more and more and more scammers are going to use and abuse children and babies on BART and in the street. Do we want this?

3) The officer told me that in Washington DC, the Metro riders demonstrate a sense of ownership and agency in relation to their system. They get involved if someone is out of line and call the train operator. They stick around and talk to the police. The officer said 'The police and DA cannot accomplish much unless citizens get involved and push the Train Operator button and then are willing to stay around, and give a complaint plus contact information.

"Our worst obstacle is people not wanting to get involved."
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If you dont want anyone to know where you live, give your work address or a PO Box. You do need to have a phone number that the DA can contact you at. Please, its citizen service. Do it, just do it if you see something going down that you know to be hurting someone. Its a pain in the ass, but -- you will feel you are a part of things. Its a pain in the ass to disrupt ones routine but--you feel involved.

And you're not being a snitch. Only the thug element would call you a snitch. You're being a citizen and enforcing customs and norms.

I used to work at a homeless shelter. I did a street sociology placement in Berkeley's Peoples Park. And then I spent two years volunteering on a street outreach team in San Francisco.

Friends, dont give money to panhandlers. People I have heard speaking at AA and NA meetings who once were beggars themselves have said the very same thing. Dont do it.

Shame and fear are emotions that ruin good decision making, whether its money or relationships. Never give money based on shame or a guilt trip. You have your money because you know how to budget. You have not ripped anyone else off.

If you do have some spare money, call the social work department at Highland Hospital or SF General and ask how to make a donation to them. Social workers pay out of pocket for client cab and bus fares.

Now these panhandlers with

Now these panhandlers with kids are sitting right outside Montgomery BART on the Fidelity side. Women with most unhappy looking kids; sames ones day in and day out. They were also doing the same thing at Safeways in Concord.

No, BART Police should ride the dam trains and make the reports right on the train for that type of activity and then remove the offending party off the train without delaying the dam train AT ALL like they do. There is no excuse for the delays caused by BART Police for b.s. activity like panhandling and DODs on BART.

BART needs to correct that big time and make it easy to report crimes to BART police without causing delays.

BART is so dysfunctional as far as BPD crime within the paid area of the system goes.

One would think BART would at least do something so the homeless quit pissing on the escalator over on the Fidelity side too. It really STINKS.